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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:05:00 -
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To all those people who already bemoan the death of 1v1 PvP...
I would estimate that at least 78.3 % of all kills in EVE are generated through fights where one side would not have wanted the fight, because they were badly outnumbered.
People only fight if they think they will or will likely win.
So fights will only happen 1-5 times for each noob and then when one side does not pay attention/the cat runs over the keyboard or the like.
On the other hand, everyone wants PvP and cries that it's so hard to find fights (=fights they would win).
Result: people are hotdropping single ships with fleets of cloaky battleships... out of boredom.
And large areas where people do not do certain things, because it's... well... unhealthy because of all the ganks.
An arena sysrem would encourage risk adverse players (coll.: cowards ^^) to try PvP in a controlled environment.
Same counts for specialized PvPers who have not focussed on initiating fights/controlling condtions (coll.: mindless F1 drones).
With all those people in the Dojo, the thing is practically guaranteed to become a success.
And what is even more important:
The rest of the cluster will have a more balanced ratio of wolves and sheep.
And the learning cliff for PvP will be easier to master since you can train.
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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
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Posted - 2014.09.25 13:59:00 -
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Again. This is REALLY great.
And to those who disagree:
it's already there today on TQ - only people have to relog to World of Tanks or LoL.
-have them stay in EVE
-let them have fun
-very important: more explosions!
2nd round effect:
After bored players can blow up their stuff MUCH faster than they do know, guess what happens.
The number of farmers must increase (=targets for open world PvP aficionados) and/or the PLEX price goes down, because people have to buy new stuff to burn in the dojos.
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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
196
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:06:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
This do not matter. The possibility of non-consensual pvp ANYTIME in any space in new eden is a CORE principle. This idea violates that core principle.
I have perfectly no idea what is your point.
Do you want a lifetime guarantee that you may gank/hotdrop anything anywhere ?
Seriously, I don't get it.
Especially, because with those Dojos you actually could get the fight anytime... instead of posting in a forum about how hard it is to get fights?!?! |
Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
196
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:20:00 -
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Contestants should actually buy the stuff from the Dojo owner. Anything else does not make much sense since the fittings used will maybe greatly vary in value.
Plus you might not even get the victor's ship back in one piece and so on...
Maybe the thing could display the killmail value of your chosen ship (+ owner defined tax rate) BEFORE the fight and a contestant would have to deposit that sum in order to fight? |
Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
196
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:22:00 -
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Masao Kurata wrote:
EVE is real. This feature is not.
This will be a fun way to interact with people and blow up REAL virtual stuff! This is SO EVE! |
Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
196
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:55:00 -
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Turelus wrote:Can I place a carrier in this unscanable/warpable pocket then just not PVP and assign fighters? 
Yes, for the entire 5 minutes. |
Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
196
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:01:00 -
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Varesk wrote:
no its not awesome and nothing about it is "eve-like". if it was "eve-like" i could scan out the combatants and warp to them.
It has to be eve-like, because even mentioning it instantly creates huge drama and a sizeable threadnought.
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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
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Posted - 2014.09.25 16:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
1. yes you can
2. AT has nothing at all to do with what happens on tranq
3. what has this to do with anything?
Point remains, you are stopping me from entering the arena to kill you, this goes against the sandbox.
On the contrary. The whole purpose of the thing is that you enter and (try to) kill me. :-D
Only you have to come without a cyno and/or a 20-man gang.
And actually there could be a fun fight for BOTH parties involved which is rather rare otherwise.
About the sandbox issue:
Are in-game contracts to be condemned? Because the game mechanism guarantees you cannot cheat? (as long as everyone reads the thing)
Is the market to be condemned? Because no one can just steal from the market?
Isn't that completely un-sandboxy???
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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
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Posted - 2014.09.25 16:52:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
About the sandbox issue:
Are in-game contracts to be condemned? Because the game mechanism guarantees you cannot cheat? (as long as everyone reads the thing)
Is the market to be condemned? Because no one can just steal from the market?
Isn't that completely un-sandboxy???
Both the market and contracts can be used to scam people.[/quote]
Both the markets and contracts LIMIT the precious sandbox freedom and create a TON of opportunities (including opportunities to scam) by doing so.
Imagine you were in Jita offering stuff for sale and you would have to trust people sending you money after you handed over the goods. Would be totally cool and also possible to scam if you were NOT automatically charged the price wouldn't it?
Those Dojos will just be another tool that helps players to create content and fun. And explosions. And some will always scam, grief with this. Whatever it will look like in the end.
But.
I think the most crucial point is...
Is there any CCP dev crazy enough to even touch the code of this after "a couple of months" of THAT after CCP Veritas is leaving? |
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